Natural Immunity w/ Dr. Chris Shoemaker & Dr. Mark Trozzi
Revisiting the Power of Our Inherent Defenses

Date & Time
Wednesday, March 19, 2025 – 6 PM MT (8 PM ET)

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Before COVID-19, the idea of natural immunity was rarely controversial. Yet at the height of the pandemic, questioning vaccine-centric approaches or even discussing the body’s innate defences became almost taboo. Join The Lavigne Show for an in-depth conversation with Dr. Chris Shoemaker and Dr. Mark Trozzi, two physicians who are adamant that natural immunity deserves more recognition than it’s receiving in mainstream discourse. From herd immunity potential to whether repeated shots are necessary, we’ll dive into the data, the debates, and the implications for public health moving forward.

Featured Guests

Dr. Chris Shoemaker @CShoemakerMD
A Canadian physician's outspoken skepticism about mRNA vaccine safety has garnered praise and controversy. Dr. Shoemaker has long advocated for greater acceptance of immune system resilience, highlighting potential downsides of forced “one-size-fits-all” mandates while emphasizing solutions like Ivermectin and other early treatments.

Dr. Mark Trozzi @DrTrozzi
Known for his 25+ years in emergency medicine, Dr. Trozzi left a conventional career path to challenge what he calls “coerced genetic injections.” His bold stance labelling mRNA shots as toxic bioweapons resulted in losing his medical license but won him a following among those critical of vaccine mandates. Now focused on research and public advocacy, he argues that natural immunity is a safer, often undervalued alternative.

What to Expect

Beyond Controversy: Is Natural Immunity “Enough”?
From resistance to respiratory viruses to the possibility of collective immunity, our guests discuss how our innate defences might have shaped or could still shape pandemic outcomes.

Vaccines vs. Innate Defenses
Does the vaccine approach overshadow the role our immune systems naturally play? Or, conversely, is going “natural” alone too risky for the vulnerable? Chris and Mark’s differing personal experiences will shed light on that tension.

Herd Immunity Revisited
Remember the term that dominated headlines early on? We’ll see if we truly needed “universal vaccination” or if a robust natural immune response could have driven us toward herd protection more quickly.

Broader Medical & Ethical Implications
The conversation extends beyond just COVID-19. How do new gene-based medical technologies fit into future pandemics, and what does it say about individual autonomy when discussing medical interventions?

Why You Should Watch

Unheard Perspectives
If you felt the conversation around immunity was largely one-sided, Chris and Mark present a counterpoint from the front lines, albeit wrapped in controversy.

Data, Doubts & Debates
You should expect references to published research, personal anecdotes, and vantage points that aren't included in mainstream coverage.

Future Pandemic Prep
Understanding the interplay between vaccine-based strategies and innate immunity could be critical for the following health crisis whenever it arrives.

Whether you agree or disagree with their conclusions, Dr. Shoemaker and Dr. Trozzi force a vital question: Have we given natural immunity its due? Please tune in for an eye-opening conversation that re-examines the science, ethics, and politics behind the role of our body’s built-in defences.